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Tuesday, November 21, 2006

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Umm... How come nobody is talking about the black person calling him a cracker?

"Random Person" wrote:

>>> Umm... How come nobody is talking about the black person calling him a cracker?

Ummm... Dear "Random Person,"

Is this a serious question, or are you just trying to rile people up? When someone posts this sort of comment anonymously, it's hard to tell. But allow me to explain why I think the two are different:

1) Sadly, thousands of racist remarks are uttered in America every day. In and of themselves, they are not newsworthy. Michael Richards is a millionaire celebrity. He is in the public spotlight. As such, his actions are newsworthy -- particularly given their intensity in this situation.

2) I believe it's wrong to fight racism with racism, but under the circumstances, I think someone in the audience letting one racist word slip out doesn't even begin to compare with what Richards did.

3) According to Sinbad, an African-American comedian who was in the audience that night, before Richards went off on his blatantly racist rant, he was also taunting the audience telling them he was so much richer than they were. In addition to being a racist jerk, he is also an elitest jerk. If someone as rich and famous as Richards, a man with thousands and thousands of fans, does what he did, OF COURSE people are going to talk about it a lot more than some random schmuck in the audience. And I, as one of his former fans, want to know what he did.

4) Some people will disagree with me, but I consider white racism against blacks more serious than black racism against whites. Why? Because white people have not had to endure the legacy of oppression and systemized discrimination that African-Americans have. Does this justify black-against-white racism? No. But seriously, do you honestly think that one word uttered by a random audience member deserves the same level of attention as Richards's outburst? I don't.

I don't really know what it feels like to be anything but a white man, but I have fallen victim to one racist beating by a group of people of another color, a beating that almost killed me. I have also been on the receiving end of perhaps a dozen incidents of intimidation and violence by people of other colors. Am I more justified in being racist than someone of another color who has never been assaulted by a white man? I really don't think so.

I *do* understand how feeling victimized can make it tempting to hate the people who hurt you, I *can't* truly understand what it's like to have brown or black skin.

At some point everyone, as a human being, has to understand that you cannot judge a whole race or nation by the actions of some. I am sure that it can be extremely difficult to undo years of conditioning. Many people around the world realize that not all United States citizens support our government's actions, and do not hate us- and these include people who are getting bombed and watching their family members getting killed by our military. Perhaps we can take a lesson from them.

Fueling and encouraging racism is a way to control people. I do believe that many groups and individuals in positions of power have absolutely no interest in people getting along. I think now is the time for all of us to question our attitudes and actions in relation to race. We can't make excuses or justify racism. We can try to understand and have compassion for people with racist tendencies- especially groups who have historically been horribly oppressed. But we can't trivialize or say it's *more* justified.

Just my 2 cents.

An asshole is an asshole.
A racist is a rascist.

Color does not matter.
Period.

And Dave, you know I hate racism, but this comment is frogging stupid: "Because white people have not had to endure the legacy of oppression and systemized discrimination that African-Americans have."

Does that mean that you believe Israel has the right to occupy and suppress the Palestinians? That Mugabes followers in Kenya was in their full rights when they burned "white" farms and killed white farmers? That muslim terrorism is allright because of the western support to Arabian dictatorship?

I really do not think you believe so. My advice to you must therefore be; when angry, even when justified, think twice! Learn from Nelson Mandela and Gandhi. Wrong doings can never be corrected by another wrong doing...

Still your friend though!

Brrre...

I mostly agree with you. You caught me in a rare moment of America-centrism, when I was thinking from the perspective of racism in the United States, not global racism. But please be careful not to distort what I wrote.

I NEVER said racism against whites is okay. On the contrary, I wrote, "I believe it's wrong to fight racism with racism, but under the circumstances, I think someone in the audience letting one racist word slip out [in response to Richards's tirade] doesn't even begin to compare with what Richards did."

I stand by my statement that the audience member's use of one anti-white slur toward Richards is not as newsworthy as Richards's long and furious racist explosion -- and I think that anyone who asks the question, "How come nobody is talking about the black person calling him a cracker?" is absurd in trying to equate the two. Quite honestly, it strikes me as a typical argument of a white American racist who is trying to deflect attention from the real news story and/or someone who is trying to rile people up just because he thinks it's fun.

That having been said, you are correct. While I think that an oppressed minority has every right to be pissed off when it is the target of racism, fighting back with more racism isn't going to solve anything.

Ummm... but Brrre... "Still your friend though!"

Are we friends?!?! Damn! Not that I have anything against Norwegians, but....

:-P

Okay then, we are not friends anymore;-)
If you feel I distorted what you wrote, I would just like to say that I didn't mess up the quote from your comment. I did a regular cut-and-paste... What I should have done to make my point clear was to quote the sentence just before the quote I used last time: "4) Some people will disagree with me, but I consider white racism against blacks more serious than black racism against whites."
Dave, I do disagree with you on this. Some subjects are not open for relativism(sorry Albert), racism is one of those subjects. Why? Because racism is in it's nature wrong both when it comes to moral and when it comes to academic standards(what on earth did they teach you at Wisconsin?). Racism is passing judgement on someone based on etnitisty, religion or cultural background. Or put in an other way, passing judgement based on what you THINK, not what you KNOW about someone. Even if you have had bad experiences with one or more people from one group, it is just plain stupid to transfer that perception to other members of the same group. It does not make sense.
I have seen Wayne Gretzky(?) play hockey on TV once, he didn't score a single point. Does that make him a bad hockey-player?
I wonder, if a colored person took you for a white-suprematist, based only on your lack of hair, would that be any less stupid or wrong just because there are some short-haired white-suprematist around? Even if that person had had some bad experience with white-suprematists?
The problem is that you are using double-communication. On one side you say that all racism is bad, on the other side you claim that some racism is more understandable. When are we supposed to believe you?
I do not want to distort what you wrote, but as I said: racism is not open to relativism, therefore I just had to arrest you on that.
I do thank you for saying that I am correct(it does not happen to often)! Funny thing is that you agreed on this last time we got drunk together. That means that you are the only person I know who is more intelligent and open-minded when drunk and not sober. Not bad. Actually not bad at all!!

Can we be friends now?

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